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Jawbone Project Pits Energy Versus Golden Eagle and California Condor

Courthouse News Service --      KERN COUNTY, CA (CN) - In a windswept desert north of Los Angeles, the Sierra Club is fighting a big wind turbine project where California's critically endangered condors roost and protected golden eagles soar.
     "The project area is a historic habitat for the California condor," said Joan Taylor with the Sierra Club, contrary to the developers' report. "The report said the birds didn't roost there, but we know they do because they have collars and we track them."
     "The environmental study the companies published had no mitigations on how to prevent golden eagle deaths at all," she added.
     The 13,000-acre wind turbine project, generally called Jawbone, is located in the southern Sierra Nevada mountains in an area with regular winds rushing from the cool Pacific ocean up in


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Romey08
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 10:05:32 PM

Only in CA
DCbeachbum
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 10:05:12 PM

This article is amazing. The Sierra Club and environmentalists needs to decide just what they do want. Sorry about the Condor
but if we try to keep the air clean by alternative energy and this is a good site for a wind farm. I go with people over a bird.
filcut
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 10:04:23 PM

Put the darn turbines in DC---lots of hot moving air there
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 10:03:36 PM

Decision time.
DblChek
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 10:02:56 PM

I like the birds...give 'em the bird!


Drill Here.
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Employ Here.
Jeffro61
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 10:01:03 PM

Someone will always bitch about something
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 9:59:38 PM

I am all for wind energy but I think the project could've picked a better area than protected habitats.
mstearno
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 9:57:33 PM

OMG the liberals are fighting over birds and clean renewable

what should we do?
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 9:57:02 PM

Why not offshore. If they can drill there, why not put wind turbines there? Seems like I remember the wind always blowing near the coast.
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 9:55:18 PM

ok
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 9:54:26 PM

.....
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 9:53:25 PM

Ok
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 9:52:25 PM

California wants it all!
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 9:51:05 PM

A funny thing how green is bad.
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 9:50:22 PM

interesting!!!
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 9:47:43 PM

the haves vs the have nots
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 9:45:06 PM

The same people who hate oil and insist that we use alternatives are the people who fight tooth and nail against windmills and solar farms anywhere within hundreds of miles of them.
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 9:41:34 PM

OK
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 9:39:24 PM

Let the government get involved and the project will never be built because the fools in government just don't have a sence of reality and they can drag this out for centuries.
dalepm
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 9:36:25 PM

If there was enough wind in my area I would definitely have a wind generator. Then again I wouldn't want to live where there is enough wind for onw.
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 9:34:15 PM


Bye bye birdy.
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 9:32:53 PM

They are building zero enrgy houses that actually make money selling electricity back to the power company. Sounds like that may be a pretty sound national policy. Short term cost would be a bit higher but long term gain would be substansial.
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 9:30:33 PM

ok
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 9:28:44 PM

This is another issue that should have been resolved long ago. Being as condors are endangered, Dept of Fish & Wildlife should be tracking them. They should know just as well as the Sierra Club how many and where they are. If they are there; don't build. If not; go ahead.
mswillia
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 9:26:00 PM

all the sane people should leave California since they do not want power, or fuel.
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 9:25:43 PM

The birds will adapt or die trying.
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 9:23:34 PM

I really wish I could see how much money these things cost versus the amount of power they generate. Are they really worth the cost and eyesore they present?

California had been paying people to poison squirrels in the vicinity of wind turbines so that eagles would not look for them there as a food source.
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 9:23:19 PM

Move the birds
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 9:20:35 PM

If it's not one thing, then it's another. You can't please everyone (or everything) and the more you try, the less gets done.
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 9:17:36 PM

The Sierra Club is a problem because of weak willed leaders.
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 9:16:36 PM

The Sierra club is against every form of energy! The question is what is truth an what are Lies?
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 9:15:30 PM

Screw Condor's.
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What to do?
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Don't believe the hYpe and change lunatics.

Anyone Else 2012!
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Solar Power Is The Way To Go...
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 9:11:38 PM

there's mitigation that can take place and the generators and birds can live in harmony. just work the sh*t out boy and girls.
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 9:09:45 PM

I disagree with 'no monkey2002' because one of the birds is our national symbol and should remain unharmed. We already have enough FOOLS in Congress and the WH doing their best in ruining already. time to take back our country.
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Environmentalists are never happy.
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The environmentalists won't be happy until the US is a third world country.
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Ohhh, always with those nutty birds and stuff. lol
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 9:03:12 PM

Environmentalists have a clear message:

* We can't keep doing what we're doing now.

* We can't do anything else.
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 9:02:07 PM

Can we put collars on Sierra Club members like dogs within the invisible fence?
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 9:00:01 PM

:/
no_monkey2002
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 8:58:42 PM

so we lose a few birds
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We're all doomed!
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 8:57:48 PM

Wind energy is not the answer because it is not constant.
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I am with seabrz below....
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 8:54:44 PM

There must be some alternatives.
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 8:49:36 PM

Being in Calif. I have seen areas where we already have turbines and let me say its ugly to see 1000 turbines on the hills as you travel. I would rather see solar produced in the desert areas.
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And in the end, you just know who will win this fight....
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I guess we should preserve something to pick our bones while the politicians pick our pockets.
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we need to find that balance
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