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Canadian oil producers look east

Edmonton Journal -- For Canada's largest oilsands producer, sending a recent shipment of western Canadian crude to its Montreal refinery required a detour across the Rockies, over two oceans and through one of the world's busiest waterways.

Suncor Energy Inc. went to great lengths to deliver the oil east for the test run, sending barrels by pipeline to tankers in B.C.'s coastal waters, which reached its St. Lawrence River refinery port via the Panama Canal. The roundabout journey is a testament to the scant access to eastern Canadian markets faced by companies mining and drilling up fast-growing volumes of bitumen in northern Alberta, production that's set to outstrip export pipeline capacity in a few years.

Oil companies intent on securing new customers are starting to look east, moved by stiff and ...

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Submitted Mar 11, 2012 By: BurntOrange

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ExplorerWA Champion Author Washington Posts:4,084 Points:798,145 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 11:31:59 PM Ignore ExplorerWA Report Abuse East is or at least for now.
jjjleblanc Champion Author Rochester Posts:5,881 Points:1,519,510 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 6:51:28 PM Ignore jjjleblanc Report Abuse Sounds good.
Night Owl Champion Author Toronto Posts:7,560 Points:1,788,550 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 6:15:46 PM Ignore Night Owl Report Abuse Yes, send the oil east, not south.
puinsai808 Champion Author Honolulu Posts:3,549 Points:728,280 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 2:29:39 PM Ignore puinsai808 Report Abuse The US and Nobama better hope they don't look west to China.
Metrolizer Champion Author Fort Worth Posts:2,015 Points:2,209,355 Joined:Feb 2005	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 9:12:58 AM Ignore Metrolizer Report Abuse Infrastructure improvements in Oklahoma and Texas should raise the value of WTI crude, reducing the Brent premium. Why then refine tar sands oil in eastern Canada rather than in British Columbia, when the Chinese and Indian markets are to be served?
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dr047 Champion Author Cleveland Posts:2,597 Points:518,420 Joined:Aug 2010	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 7:04:42 AM Ignore dr047 Report Abuse It would be Great if Canada could keep this oil and refine it for their own use and not have to import any rather than tear up everything in it's way to send it abroad.
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tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:33,047 Points:2,346,485 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 5:23:33 AM Ignore tomok Report Abuse A Canadian pipeline to both coasts and build their own refineries too!
findcheap Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:9,602 Points:2,010,850 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 5:23:16 AM Ignore findcheap Report Abuse a bit of effort
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jimgraham Champion Author Akron Posts:10,377 Points:1,980,935 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 5:22:01 AM Ignore jimgraham Report Abuse Send your oil east and serve your own countrymen - not the Chinks.
jcurley Champion Author California Posts:7,908 Points:1,776,220 Joined:Dec 2007	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 5:14:17 AM Ignore jcurley Report Abuse Since they plan on exporting the oil anyway (and won't guarantee that the oil or the refined products will stay in the USA), they should build their pipeline in their own country.
us412 Champion Author Arkansas Posts:22,832 Points:2,418,205 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 4:45:30 AM Ignore us412 Report Abuse It's only fair. The question is will Americans let a few environmental terrorists prevent enhanced Energy and National Security?!
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wulf2000 Champion Author Miami Posts:3,032 Points:1,390,055 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 4:45:07 AM Ignore wulf2000 Report Abuse The world is so hungry for oil therefore there are powerful forces that the Canadian oil will come to market one way or another.
silverfox63 Champion Author Michigan Posts:8,125 Points:1,612,690 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 4:42:11 AM Ignore silverfox63 Report Abuse I wonder how many different routes they will consider before giving up the idea?
wegman Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:7,813 Points:2,089,545 Joined:Jun 2001	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 4:41:38 AM Ignore wegman Report Abuse Yet ANOTHER reason to FIRE Obama before it is too late to undo the harm the overmatched, in over his head, ideologue is causing. For the short term we can count on Canada's NIMBY and Luddite Green Left lobbies to delay plans to send the oil anywhere but here. Five years might be too long and the Canadians might make some progress on getting the oil to Red China and then it would be too late. We NEED to send Obama to the unemployment line where he so richly deserves to be. Remember - on Election Day - FIRE LIBERALS! (and do NOT hire new ones).
packards42 Champion Author Washington Posts:6,447 Points:1,128,590 Joined:Feb 2005	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 4:40:42 AM Ignore packards42 Report Abuse Since we won't build the Keystone pipeline, What a Canadian company to do. Make it happen through Panama, Soon they shipping crude oil right by California why we import to the same ports. California is exporting refine energy to raise price all ready.
lgwhitlock Champion Author Chico Posts:7,390 Points:1,686,470 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 4:33:27 AM Ignore lgwhitlock Report Abuse Seems like a smart move. If the US can't get their act together they have to move their oil to people who really want it...
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KDMWI Champion Author Wisconsin Posts:4,208 Points:382,620 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 3:22:37 AM Ignore KDMWI Report Abuse Taken from the article: TransCanada spokesman James Millar said it's much cheaper to build refining capacity in Eastern Canada, which can access a larger market in Canada, the U.S. East Coast, Europe and even India and China, but the refinery sector can't develop until a pipeline is in place from the West. Notice the work China. Why not supply the USA, I thought we were neighbors.
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