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Crisis Hits German Luxury Carmakers

Der Spiegel -- In the first sign that the global economic crisis may be returning to the luxury car industry, Germany's Daimler has reduced its earnings forecast for next year, while Porsche said it would also build fewer cars. The market in China, which helped keep German manufacturers above water in recent years, is slowing.

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Submitted Sep 22, 2012 By: Eugenian

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honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,624 Points:1,609,520 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Sep 25, 2012 12:10:49 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse Truth: maybe... but I agree, China is a big factor on the world economic stage, no doubt.
TruthMatters Champion Author New Jersey Posts:2,520 Points:533,985 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Sep 24, 2012 7:03:03 AM Ignore TruthMatters Report Abuse Xenophobes take note: As China goes, so goes the world!
HailstormCA Champion Author San Diego Posts:7,855 Points:1,472,020 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Sep 23, 2012 10:28:00 AM Ignore HailstormCA Report Abuse Oh, the shame of it all.
DanMtz Champion Author Oakland Posts:3,355 Points:1,243,325 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Sep 23, 2012 9:31:45 AM Ignore DanMtz Report Abuse Oh, what a crisis! Cognac imports to Germany will surely take a hit...
tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:33,020 Points:2,345,510 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Sep 23, 2012 4:42:20 AM Ignore tomok Report Abuse Crisis! Der Spiegel! Crisis! The economy is much worse than what politicians will let you believe and it does not matter what manufacturer or country it affects. 'Coming out of the closet' Chucks lousy, smoke and mirrors, lack of jobs, dog and pony show and in the crapper economy, the jobs are Not here. Chuck's economy is not improving but continues to hurt the population and the job numbers continue to be down – no matter how smoooooth talking Chuck spins those numbers and he can spin them! People will still drive and buy fuel, no matter what, but it sure helps to have a job too! A brand of luxury vehicle I will never drive, afford or ever care about! Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, Produce and ‘Drive’ vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. The price of fuel at the pump is too high! 12/22/2012!
us4usa Champion Author Missouri Posts:5,991 Points:1,113,265 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Sep 23, 2012 12:11:14 AM Ignore us4usa Report Abuse I called last week to canc. our order... When asked why, I told them we had to buy gas and food this week...
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rtw777 Champion Author Florida Posts:9,396 Points:1,841,995 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Sep 23, 2012 12:05:09 AM Ignore rtw777 Report Abuse Luxury cars are not a good indicator for the economy.
carinthuist Champion Author San Francisco Posts:2,250 Points:330,525 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Sep 22, 2012 11:57:47 PM Ignore carinthuist Report Abuse economy cutting on luxury autos
tidalwave3 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:1,304 Points:1,463,725 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Sep 22, 2012 11:56:55 PM Ignore tidalwave3 Report Abuse It will catch up to you ...
PithyOpiner Champion Author Stockton Posts:16,205 Points:1,597,545 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Sep 22, 2012 11:56:38 PM Ignore PithyOpiner Report Abuse Well, tell 'em to lower their prices. Their cars are too expensive for us poor slobs.
HA4CNN Champion Author Toronto Posts:5,625 Points:1,544,235 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Sep 22, 2012 11:54:56 PM Ignore HA4CNN Report Abuse When times get tough spending slows.
wang91554 Champion Author San Jose Posts:3,170 Points:1,201,805 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Sep 22, 2012 11:49:17 PM Ignore wang91554 Report Abuse counting on chinese consumers is always iffy
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Marson Champion Author Scranton Posts:8,947 Points:2,078,160 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Sep 22, 2012 11:45:17 PM Ignore Marson Report Abuse It sounds like China is on the brink of a big economic problem.
AKmailman Champion Author Alaska Posts:5,633 Points:1,558,315 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Sep 22, 2012 11:44:07 PM Ignore AKmailman Report Abuse mercs and porsches aren't what they used to be
bonzoonfmb Champion Author Florida Posts:1,782 Points:645,035 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Sep 22, 2012 11:43:27 PM Ignore bonzoonfmb Report Abuse I believe that China is going to have some severe economic problems in the near future. The news that the German economy is slowing now also is not good news but not unexpected. The German automakers have a product mix that is well-rounded and in high demand during most economic conditions. They do not tool their factories to produce large vehicles that are only in demand during times of accelerated economic growth.
lesndave Champion Author Texas Posts:3,042 Points:701,380 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Sep 22, 2012 11:42:22 PM Ignore lesndave Report Abuse Hmmmm
charladan All-Star Author Virginia Posts:564 Points:450,390 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Sep 22, 2012 11:38:24 PM Ignore charladan Report Abuse Harley Davidson is staying profitable only because of China also.
skyking19 Champion Author Little Rock Posts:2,001 Points:1,699,690 Joined:Jan 2007	Message Posted: Sep 22, 2012 11:38:19 PM Ignore skyking19 Report Abuse Global economy is in the skids for a few more years.
trytogetby All-Star Author Cincinnati Posts:864 Points:214,000 Joined:Apr 2012	Message Posted: Sep 22, 2012 11:37:48 PM Ignore trytogetby Report Abuse Well that's just to bad . My heart bleeds for the rich , spoiled people.
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Tekkersmom57 Champion Author Syracuse Posts:1,879 Points:701,190 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Sep 22, 2012 11:21:40 PM Ignore Tekkersmom57 Report Abuse I'm not really surprised with the information in this article. There are rough times and cut backs all over. Our economy is presently in the dumps and needs to somehow find a way back out.
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