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Jawbone Project Pits Energy Versus Golden Eagle and California Condor

Courthouse News Service --      KERN COUNTY, CA (CN) - In a windswept desert north of Los Angeles, the Sierra Club is fighting a big wind turbine project where California's critically endangered condors roost and protected golden eagles soar.
     "The project area is a historic habitat for the California condor," said Joan Taylor with the Sierra Club, contrary to the developers' report. "The report said the birds didn't roost there, but we know they do because they have collars and we track them."
     "The environmental study the companies published had no mitigations on how to prevent golden eagle deaths at all," she added.
     The 13,000-acre wind turbine project, generally called Jawbone, is located in the southern Sierra Nevada mountains in an area with regular winds rushing from the cool Pacific ocean up in

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Submitted Mar 11, 2012 By: drpepperTX

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honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,818 Points:1,636,245 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2012 6:01:38 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse make the company redo it.
Gnusman53 Champion Author San Diego Posts:7,188 Points:1,139,045 Joined:Feb 2004	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2012 7:59:47 PM Ignore Gnusman53 Report Abuse Sounds like the EIS was woefully done by the developer.
Rehorsehay All-Star Author California Posts:871 Points:45,925 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2012 4:48:20 PM Ignore Rehorsehay Report Abuse No easy choice!
JesseJack52 All-Star Author Virginia Beach Posts:628 Points:127,835 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2012 4:37:18 PM Ignore JesseJack52 Report Abuse INTERESTING
drpepperTX Champion Author Texas Posts:9,158 Points:778,875 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2012 3:10:53 PM Ignore drpepperTX Report Abuse To me this is one ugly sight: Ugly
drpepperTX Champion Author Texas Posts:9,158 Points:778,875 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2012 3:04:14 PM Ignore drpepperTX Report Abuse A lot of folks consider wind turbines themselves as "trashing the place".
Gnusman53 Champion Author San Diego Posts:7,188 Points:1,139,045 Joined:Feb 2004	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2012 3:02:14 PM Ignore Gnusman53 Report Abuse It would be nice if they would not trash the place.....
Gnusman53 Champion Author San Diego Posts:7,188 Points:1,139,045 Joined:Feb 2004	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2012 2:23:58 PM Ignore Gnusman53 Report Abuse It would be nice if those developers would develop a plan to improve the ecosystem there that has already been damaged by man, his dirt bikes and ATVs already..... And then have a bond that guarantees that..... the property returns or is returned to its normal state........
Gnusman53 Champion Author San Diego Posts:7,188 Points:1,139,045 Joined:Feb 2004	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2012 2:18:50 PM Ignore Gnusman53 Report Abuse Jawbone is a beautiful area of scrub and canyons that mostly seems to be used by off-roaders that has caused damages and erosion problems. If they are going to build in that area, they need to figure out how to mitigate those impacts.... as much as possible.
sparky808 Champion Author Honolulu Posts:3,139 Points:624,685 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2012 1:22:48 PM Ignore sparky808 Report Abuse Thank you for posting.
Gnusman53 Champion Author San Diego Posts:7,188 Points:1,139,045 Joined:Feb 2004	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2012 9:11:19 AM Ignore Gnusman53 Report Abuse Actually, the developers have to be responsible.... and leave a light mark on the environment -- not try to use and abuse it
CSharpGuy Champion Author Colorado Springs Posts:9,607 Points:1,925,110 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2012 6:56:57 AM Ignore CSharpGuy Report Abuse NO, the environmentalist have pitched it as the eagle vs energy in order to stop progress.
millerin Champion Author Orlando Posts:2,332 Points:487,315 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2012 12:12:51 AM Ignore millerin Report Abuse 2 ok
bcok Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:2,176 Points:1,554,545 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2012 12:12:36 AM Ignore bcok Report Abuse Didn't we almost lose the condors once before? There has to be another system to implement for an alternative energy.
jorod55 Champion Author California Posts:1,607 Points:458,225 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2012 12:11:20 AM Ignore jorod55 Report Abuse If they don't like wind turbines maybe we should cut off their power. If they want to be conservationists then they don't need any grid power to operate with.
herndonks Champion Author Baltimore Posts:1,116 Points:211,685 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2012 12:11:12 AM Ignore herndonks Report Abuse Ok
granitestater Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:8,975 Points:1,457,475 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2012 12:10:29 AM Ignore granitestater Report Abuse We now have one group of envirofreaks fighting another group of envirofreaks...
LoneGuy Champion Author Lansing Posts:8,610 Points:2,343,745 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2012 12:09:46 AM Ignore LoneGuy Report Abuse So they didn't say anything until the turbines were installed? They didn't realize they were building foundation or shipping hardware?
amgine27 Champion Author New York Posts:1,398 Points:332,965 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2012 12:03:38 AM Ignore amgine27 Report Abuse ok
jem069 Champion Author Detroit Posts:2,674 Points:713,805 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2012 12:03:37 AM Ignore jem069 Report Abuse ok
esquared Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:8,197 Points:1,995,860 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2012 12:03:16 AM Ignore esquared Report Abuse Life is a series of trade-offs.
kbierley Champion Author Dayton Posts:10,739 Points:1,417,820 Joined:Nov 2003	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 11:58:54 PM Ignore kbierley Report Abuse What is more important?
firefly09 Champion Author San Diego Posts:2,608 Points:739,130 Joined:Mar 2009	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 11:55:58 PM Ignore firefly09 Report Abuse I hate Wind turbines. They make the landscape look ugly and now killing off the birds. What next?
gd83goldwinger Champion Author South Bend Posts:1,428 Points:519,230 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 11:54:44 PM Ignore gd83goldwinger Report Abuse Always something.
CDMAuto Champion Author Connecticut Posts:3,927 Points:780,580 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 11:45:59 PM Ignore CDMAuto Report Abuse you can not have your cake and eat it to........ You need to make a choice....
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lolobond All-Star Author New Orleans Posts:724 Points:637,810 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 11:42:45 PM Ignore lolobond Report Abuse I hope its work
billy44bo Champion Author Mobile Posts:7,328 Points:1,516,265 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 11:41:20 PM Ignore billy44bo Report Abuse What would make them happen all of us in the dark. Did they start the dark ages with all of their crap that they wanted Rome to do.
lowpet All-Star Author Texas Posts:527 Points:86,915 Joined:Dec 2008	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 11:40:05 PM Ignore lowpet Report Abuse this is what happens when the environmentalist group has their say in some issue
fenster66 Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:3,485 Points:700,815 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 11:38:17 PM Ignore fenster66 Report Abuse here we go again...
dcjauburn Champion Author Sacramento Posts:12,676 Points:2,266,315 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 11:37:32 PM Ignore dcjauburn Report Abuse We need to decide, do we want to clean up the air by producing electricity from clean renewable wind power or be overly concerned about the condor and eagles and have dirty air.
SUSANCK Champion Author Chicago Posts:3,777 Points:731,230 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 11:34:32 PM Ignore SUSANCK Report Abuse Guess which one will die.
dinomen Champion Author Arkansas Posts:1,882 Points:718,785 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 11:33:12 PM Ignore dinomen Report Abuse Ok.
mcmonsta Champion Author Honolulu Posts:3,342 Points:844,495 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 11:31:45 PM Ignore mcmonsta Report Abuse these developers shpu;d be denied because of their ignorance or stupidity. are for condors and bald eagle....who did their study? they shouldn't be paid a cent!
FlogNut Champion Author Chicago Posts:104,835 Points:2,015,150 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 11:31:42 PM Ignore FlogNut Report Abuse If raptors or endangered birds are found dead near a refinery the oil company gets fined. It those birds were found dead at the base of a windmill there's no fine.
ExplorerWA Champion Author Washington Posts:4,231 Points:823,895 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 11:28:26 PM Ignore ExplorerWA Report Abuse The environmentalist are never happy.
skybiker Champion Author South Carolina Posts:7,399 Points:1,585,560 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 10:38:56 PM Ignore skybiker Report Abuse No more of this Green BS...
badspots Champion Author Houston Posts:2,082 Points:693,105 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 10:34:41 PM Ignore badspots Report Abuse Ok.
30mpg80 Champion Author Lexington Posts:10,260 Points:1,513,605 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 10:33:10 PM Ignore 30mpg80 Report Abuse Used their imagination in writing the environmental 'study'
96sc1 Champion Author El Paso Posts:8,517 Points:1,367,440 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 10:30:44 PM Ignore 96sc1 Report Abuse Environmentalists fight on both sides until everyone loses.
us4usa Champion Author Missouri Posts:6,118 Points:1,136,670 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 10:26:00 PM Ignore us4usa Report Abuse "Their petition is based on the likelihood of damage to the water shed, to rare plants in the area including the Bakersfield Cactus, and to heavily protected birds species." Let me guess the Bakersfield Cactus can only be found on the Jawbone 13,000 acres??? Is that a lot of land for 116 wind turbines, 13,000/116=112ac per turbine??? Did not know that the wind turbines used water??? As for the birds coyotes need to eat too???
PoohMcGoo Champion Author Alabama Posts:3,122 Points:822,060 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 10:19:52 PM Ignore PoohMcGoo Report Abuse That's the left coast for ya.
dudleydolittle Champion Author Cleveland Posts:4,568 Points:616,420 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 10:17:55 PM Ignore dudleydolittle Report Abuse They are going to do what they want too. They could care less how many birds die.
BlackSbr Champion Author Nevada Posts:1,000 Points:587,200 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 10:13:01 PM Ignore BlackSbr Report Abuse Renewable Energy or kill a species?
Blue48 Champion Author Illinois Posts:7,440 Points:1,664,670 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 10:10:07 PM Ignore Blue48 Report Abuse AND THE BIG DEBATE GROWS!
DustyHorse Champion Author Virginia Posts:6,214 Points:1,416,580 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 10:08:52 PM Ignore DustyHorse Report Abuse This article is very poorly written.
dylan126 Champion Author Cleveland Posts:4,568 Points:620,345 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 10:08:40 PM Ignore dylan126 Report Abuse I agree with filcut, Lots of hot air in DC
FlyNFool Champion Author South Carolina Posts:8,374 Points:1,711,700 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 10:07:25 PM Ignore FlyNFool Report Abuse Leave it to CA.
Romey08 Champion Author Virginia Posts:6,412 Points:1,456,430 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 10:05:32 PM Ignore Romey08 Report Abuse Only in CA